Fruity Loops Vs Reason
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2016-10-23 09:26:08Since I have been seeing a wide range of 'threads' (eg: forum posts) about why people would leave reason. Or people calling out that Reason kind of sucks in a general context. I would just write down a list of items why Reason will never be the DAW for you (in case this question comes to mind). To be honest, I like Reason for what it is. However there are moments that I go back to other DAWs so I can compare thing, spot the weaknesses and 'code' my own stuff back in to Reason to get similar things done that other DAWs can do to.However there are times people point out why Reason isn't the DAW for everyone (since serious, it isn't for everyone.).
So with that in mind, I thought it would be a nice idea just to throw in a list why Reason should not be the DAW for you (just to save you some time in case you think this program can handle everything).1. Reason will never ever support VSTsWhile it has been stated back in days of Reason 5, Reason will NEVER adapt to the technology of VSTs. One may argue that Rack Extensions is the VST part of Reason. However, to be fairly honest: Rack Extensions are not VSTs.
The main idea behind VSTs is that they talk with a protocol (VST protocol if you will). And the rights are owned by Steinberg. To adapt this technology, the host (the DAW in this case) needs a license (at least this is what I understand from that part) to make use of the protocol.There are some downsides with in the realm of VSTs in general. One VST does not know what the other VST is doing. This is why a lot of those instruments will house a lot of different things that other VSTs do too.
Eg: Reverb, Delay, LFO and so on. This is part where Reason kind of shines (in the realm of Control Voltage, since you can control one instrument with another).This part by itself may make you think: is reason really the DAW for me?Update: Since Reason 7 there is a method to use Midi Out to control VSTs. The work is covered in an article we posted about2. Reason isn't the best in Audio / Sample manipulationAs far Reason goes, the NN-XT was released since Reason 2.5 (the NN-19 sampler was there since the beginning). Since then, samples have barely seen a REAL update (except for the live sampling feature that came with Reason 5).Using audio tracks became a thing with Record (Reason 4). However the technology around time stretching either manipulating an audio track to do something 'wonderful' kind of got stalled since the release of Reason 6.With audio manipulation I would think in terms of 'granualize audio', either frequency shift things around. Sure there are Rack Extensions that do certain things, but without them, you are basically screwed.
To be honest here, if you compare FL Studio or Ableton live what those programs can do with audio (with stock stuff alone) compared to what Reason can do with (stock stuff). In that case Reason is kind of like 3 steps behind the realm of doing some serious audio manipulation. You may total disagree with me if you like, but that just certifies the fact that you never touched anything different other then Reason alone.3. Reason is slow in updating compared to othersSo FL Studio has grown in the last few years. 64-bit support, a scaled mixer panel, an updated GUI and so on. Ableton live added different elements like combining instruments (in a unique way, which is way better than Reason handles it), Push 2, Max4life and so on.
If I look at features Reason recently launched they are:- Drag and Drop (a feature FL studio and Ableton already had since a decade)- Convolution Reverb (ehm. See above)- Midi Out (Reason 7, ehm. See above)- Remote files added for Akai MPK Mini (serious. This is a release note.)- and the rest of changes in Reason 8 are not even worth mentioningSince this is kind of the 'trend' of updates, there hasn't been any update since Reason 7 that made me really scream 'yes!' I will admit, I like the idea that audio clips can be converted to Rex files.
But as I can recall, I wanted this feature in Reason 5. Thus, the comment about Reason is behind remains valid since I had to wait 2 updates (eg: 129.2 euro ) to get it.
And for those kids who want to say that upgrades are way cheaper with Reason, I can say this: I have spent more money on this program compared to anything else (and I still do this thing I am doing for free, I am not complaining).4. Company with out focusIf a company remains solid for a company behind Reason. Lets keep that in mind. Lets say Image line wanted to create a side project called 'Colab', would that mean that their entire project line would embrace 'Colab'? Truth is, Colab actually got launched.
Problem is, Image line (most likely) never saw anything in to continuing the project called Colab (an online sharing service to drop FL Studio projects in to). However the difference between Image Line (the company behind FL-Studio) never thought about putting FL-Studio as their main product in to the background.While Propellerhead decided to side track on IPhone apps (figure and take), it seems to suck up most of their attention.
If you want a company that is fully dedicated to develop a DAW. Then Reason may not the path of your interest. Its kind of like Microsoft developing Xbox and then they decided to develop Windows too. That actually happened. Difference here: microsoft is kind of like tons bigger then Propellerhead is.5. If you wanted a solid community or customer serviceNow this is where I will just put salt in a pair of wounds. Most products have a solid community behind their product (eg: a forum board / customer support if you will).
Since the day that PUF (the propellerhead forum) went down. I personally felt like I was the person to fill up the void on the customer service if you will. I have tons of emails /Facebook posts if you will, to back up this story. Problem here: the propellerhead customer service isn't running as it should be. Lets say this, if an individual (like Hydlide) can provide an easy answer where a customer have waited for for days. Then there are problems. And you know it.Now, I will say this.
I am not sure how many questions they get at Propellerhead HQ on a daily basis. But if this 'issue' is actually becomes an issue (eg: people having to wait for days to get a responds).
Then there are problems. Even a simple 'sorry, I can't help you with it atm' would be an answer. Yet sometimes it feels like talking to a brick wall not having an answer back at all.Compare that with other DAWs, then there is no comparison. Sorry sweeds. I had to put this up in the open.
Fruity Loops Vs Reason 1
Get your things sorted thank you (on a side note, I even had to delete a FB Page because I was getting tired of being the helpdesk of PH).Now with this all being said, I personally don't hate the program in general (let me put this in the clear). I just wanted to shed some light on a subject that has been on my mind for months. So here you go. Brain spill in 10 minutes.
The founder of reasonexperts.com. While reaching the age of 42, Hydlide has more than 20 years of experience on the field of Sound Design, writing music. Hydlide has specialized himself on the field of FM Synthesis. Coding the OPL-4 soundchips in Z80ASM was the highlight back in the days. Making music is done using Modplug Tracker, Renoise, Fruity Loops, Ableton live and on Propellerhead Reason.
Most of the sound Hydlide creates is done mostly with built in plugins, since this makes it rather limiting and challenging at the same time. Great article.I find it easier to experiment and be creative in Reason than any other DAW. I am trying to understand it enough to be able to create any sound that any other VST can produce.Right now, I am looking at what SERUM is doing and trying to figure out how to 'build' something that can reproduce any SERUM sound. If you look at SERUM presets, it appears as though the filters, the automation, and the wavetables are the main driving force. There are filters that you simply will not have in Reason, but there are filters that will suffice. Automation is easy to reproduce in Reason, with CV and RE's like Movement. And as for wavetables?
Sometimes I wonder if that is really such a big deal. Go into Serum and scroll down through different wavetables inside of a preset.
Do they really make that much difference? There are synths in Reason that have quality wavetables, so is close enough good enough?I am still looking at two combinators, one of which Hydlide created that allow morphing through samples from NNXT/Malestrom.
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The problem with that is it takes too much time to setup. Nostromo has a nice wavtable morphing feature. Most of the patches in SERUM sound SOOOO good because they make use of the stereo field, and harmonics/voicing.
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I have recently started applying chorus and stereo to many RE's in reason to find that they have that same depth and wow factor. To be honest, I'm kind of addicted to Reason. But in the production world, workflow is more important than engineering, thus the drive to put 'all in one' devices like SERUM together.Ultimately, at some point, you have to be engineer minded more so than other DAW/VST in my opinion.